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  • ZaratustraZaratustra Juan Ruiz, el Arcipreste de Hita s.XIV
    editado julio 2011
    A dark poem, it seems a romantic history, but he's Edgar Allan Poe:

    ANNABEL LEE
    Author: Edgar Allan Poe



    It was many and many a year ago,
    In a kingdom by the sea,
    That a maiden there lived whom you may know
    By the name of Annabel Lee;
    And this maiden she lived with no other thought
    Than to love and be loved by me.
    I was a child and she was a child,
    In this kingdom by the sea;
    But we loved with a love that was more than love -
    I and my Annabel Lee;
    With a love that the winged seraphs of heaven
    Coveted her and me.
    And this was the reason that, long ago,
    In this kingdom by the sea,
    A wind blew out of a cloud, chilling
    My beautiful Annabel Lee;
    So that her highborn kinsman came
    And bore her away from me,
    To shut her up in a sepulcher
    In this kingdom by the sea.
    The angels, not half so happy in heaven,
    Went envying her and me
    Yes! that was the reason
    (as all men know, In this kingdom by the sea)
    That the wind came out of the cloud by night,
    Chilling and killing my Annabel Lee.
    But our love was stronger by far than the love
    Of those who were older than we
    Of many far wiser than we
    And neither the angels in heaven above,
    Nor the demons down under the sea,
    Can ever dissever my soul from the soul
    Of the beautiful Annabel Lee.
    For the moon never beams without bringing me dreams
    Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
    And the stars never rise but I feel the bright eyes
    Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
    And so, all the night-tide, I lie down by the side
    Of my darling, my darling, my life and my bride,
    In the sepulcher there by the sea,
    In her tomb by the sounding sea.







    .
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado julio 2011
    "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,
    it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,
    it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity,
    it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness,
    it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair,
    we had everything before us, we had nothing before us,
    we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct
    the other way--in short, the period was so far like the present
    period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its
    being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree
    of comparison only."

    From "A Tale of Two Cities" by Charles Dickens
  • MenziesMenzies San juan de la Cruz XVI
    editado julio 2011
    I especially liked the last bit- when I was a boy I even memorised it by heart.
    I must confess, everyone, that I don't feel quite as much comfortable with this new development as I thought I'd be. I guess I feel as if this should be more open to discussion. I guess what I'm seeing is just texas' point of view. Anyone else agrees?
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado julio 2011
    Menzies escribió : »
    I especially liked the last bit- when I was a boy I even memorised it by heart.
    I must confess, everyone, that I don't feel quite as much comfortable with this new development as I thought I'd be. I guess I feel as if this should be more open to discussion. I guess what I'm seeing is just texas' point of view. Anyone else agrees?

    I agree. Just copying texts may get boring and mechanical. We could discuss on them, comment and share opinions.


    Here's one of my favourites (I've got lots of favourites...:rolleyes:): see his experimental style.


    i carry your heart with me

    i carry your heart with me (i carry it in
    my heart) i am never without it (anywhere
    i go you go, my dear; and whatever is done
    by only me is your doing, my darling)
    i fear
    no fate (for you are my fate, my sweet) i want
    no world (for beautiful you are my world, my true)
    and it's you are whatever a moon has always meant
    and whatever a sun will always sing is you

    here is the deepest secret nobody knows
    (here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
    and the sky of the sky of a tree called life; which grows
    higher than soul can hope or mind can hide)
    and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart
    i carry your heart (i carry it in my heart)


    E.E. Cummings
  • XerxesXerxes Pedro Abad s.XII
    editado julio 2011
    Shaianti escribió : »
    "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,
    it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,
    it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity,
    it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness,
    it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair,
    we had everything before us, we had nothing before us,
    we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct
    the other way--in short, the period was so far like the present
    period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its
    being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree
    of comparison only."

    From "A Tale of Two Cities" by Charles Dickens

    I like it, i could not read this book, it was no so funny for me, but this quote is very good.
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado agosto 2011
    Thanks for the comment, Xerxes. Besides its beauty, the text can be an interesting exercise for those who are learning English.

    Here's another "interesting exercise":


    A Poem by Jane Boyle


    I saw you
    Long before your eyes caught mine

    I watched you
    Long before you noticed me

    I followed you
    Long before your shadow awoke

    I knew you
    Long before your mind probed mine

    I kissed you
    Long before your lips saught mine

    I loved you
    Long before you loved at all

    I killed you
    Long before you were really born.
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado septiembre 2011
    A girl/ Ezra Pound


    The tree has entered my hands,
    The sap has ascended my arms,
    The tree has grown in my breast-
    Downward,
    The branches grow out of me, like arms.
    Tree you are,
    Moss you are,
    You are violets with wind above them.
    A child - so high - you are,
    And all this is folly to the world.
  • unaiunai Fernando de Rojas s.XV
    editado septiembre 2011
    Hola.

    He visto este hilo muchas veces por hay pero no me he atrevido a entrar. Estoy aprendiendo ingles y mi nivel no es muy bueno pero me encantaria unirme a vosotros.
    La verdad es que no tenbgo muy claro a que os dedicais en este hilo, pero me gustaria participar.

    Disculpadme si no me expreso con total claridad.:)

    Hi!
    I have seen this topic many times but I have never been so brave to come in.
    Im learning englis so my level is not very good, but I would like to join to this team.

    Im not sure about the work in this topic but I would like to get participate.
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado septiembre 2011
    Hi Unai, the thread is not so special. We are supposed to hang poems or quotations we like, for the others to comment. It's just an exchange of information and knowledge. If you like, you can just read the texts and comment, or put any text you choose. It's a light way of learning English and American poetry and literature.
    It's for learning and practicing. And enjoying!:)
  • MenziesMenzies San juan de la Cruz XVI
    editado septiembre 2011
    Welcome Unai. This is just a place where you can relax and do whatever you want in English. If you have a doubt about something, feel confident! This is the place. If you want to share anything, come on and show us! There's only one rule, right? In English please.
    Anyway, just like dear Shai I want to share with you all a poem; neither English nor American, but by one of the greatest Irish poets of all times:

    W.B. Yeats Easter 1916
    Too long a sacrifice
    Can make a stone of the heart.
    O when may it suffice?
    That is Heaven's part, our part
    To murmur name upon name,
    As a mother names her child
    When sleep at last has come
    On limbs that had run wild.
    What is it but nightfall?
    No, no, not night but death;
    Was it needless death after all?
    For England may keep faith
    For all that is done and said.
    We know their dream; enough
    To know they dreamed and are dead;
    And what if excess of love
    Bewildered them till they died?
    I write it out in a verse -
    MacDonagh and MacBride
    And Connolly and Pearse
    Now and in time to be,
    Wherever green is worn,
    Are changed, changed utterly:
    A terrible beauty is born.
  • unaiunai Fernando de Rojas s.XV
    editado septiembre 2011
    Oh! thank you very much for your welcome. I
    was unsafe because my english level is not as good as yours.
    I have been trying to learn english alone, but now Im learning with a class.

    I read some books adapted to my level and usually I watch my favourits serials with subtitles in spanish. I want to improve my level.
    I love traveling and english is very important to can speak with each others.

    I hope go to work to another country, for now Im waiting answer about scloarship to go to Finland for 3 months.
  • unaiunai Fernando de Rojas s.XV
    editado septiembre 2011
    This is one of my favourite songs, by one of my favourite singer: Johnny Cash.
    Early one mornin' while makin' the rounds
    I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down
    I went right home and I went to bed
    I stuck that lovin' .44 beneath my head

    Got up next mornin' and I grabbed that gun
    Took a shot of cocaine and away I run
    Made a good run but I ran too slow
    They overtook me down in Juarez, Mexico

    Late in the hot joints takin' the pills
    In walked the sheriff from Jericho Hill
    He said Willy Lee your name is not Jack Brown
    You're the dirty heck that shot your woman down

    Said yes, oh yes my name is Willy Lee
    If you've got the warrant just a-read it to me
    Shot her down because she made me sore
    I thought I was her daddy but she had five more

    When I was arrested I was dressed in black
    They put me on a train and they took me back
    Had no friend for to go my bail
    They slapped my dried up carcass in that county jail

    Early next mornin' bout a half past nine
    I spied the sheriff coming down the line
    Ah, and he coughed as he cleared his throat
    He said come on you dirty heck into that district court

    Into the courtroom my trial began
    Where I was handled by twelve honest men
    Just before the jury started out
    I saw the little judge commence to look about

    In about five minutes in walked the man
    Holding the verdict in his right hand
    The verdict read murder in the first degree
    I hollered Lawdy Lawdy, have a mercy on me

    The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
    99 years in the Folsom pen
    99 years underneath that ground
    I can't forget the day I shot that bad bitch down

    Come on you've gotta listen unto me
    Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado septiembre 2011
    Nice guy! Hope you're kinder with your lady! :D;)
  • unaiunai Fernando de Rojas s.XV
    editado septiembre 2011
    jajajaja Of course!! Im like a gentleman with my babe! ;)
  • MenziesMenzies San juan de la Cruz XVI
    editado octubre 2011
    I have a confidence to make and I know of no one better than you, gentlemen and ladies, to share with.
    I have come to realise that you learn as you live. This might be quite obvious, but when it happens to someone who has been moving places, crossing boundaries and switching languages that turns quite obsessing. In the sense that you learn different things at different moments of your life, and therefore, I realised that I know how to say some things in one language but not in the other. Curious isn't it? At the end of the day you just end up being a linguistic mess who can speak several languages but none of them properly. I'm not asking for advice- I know you could ive me none. I just had a thought and wanted to share it with my fellow colleagues, particularly because it deals with languages, words and meanings.
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado octubre 2011
    Menzies escribió : »
    I have a confidence to make and I know of no one better than you, gentlemen and ladies, to share with.
    I have come to realise that you learn as you live. This might be quite obvious, but when it happens to someone who has been moving places, crossing boundaries and switching languages that turns quite obsessing. In the sense that you learn different things at different moments of your life, and therefore, I realised that I know how to say some things in one language but not in the other. Curious isn't it? At the end of the day you just end up being a linguistic mess who can speak several languages but none of them properly. I'm not asking for advice- I know you could ive me none. I just had a thought and wanted to share it with my fellow colleagues, particularly because it deals with languages, words and meanings.

    I can give you advice on this, since I went through it long before you...
    The best thing you can do is to keep on learning; besides, you're always going to feel "different" from those who didn't get your same experience (language and cultural variety). Learning is a blessing, the more you'll learn, the richer you'll be. It also helps you to deal with different people in different environments, it opens your mind. But be prepared to feel you're not meat, nor fish!

    Two last things, I quote:
    "Live as if you were going to die tomorrow; learn as if you were going to live forever." Gandhi

    "A human mind is a beautiful thing to waste." Einstein
  • MenziesMenzies San juan de la Cruz XVI
    editado noviembre 2011
    I dedicate this beautiful poem to Miss Shaianti and, well, in general, to all those subscribed to this thread.
    By the great Dylan Thomas, on his father's deathbed:
    Do not go gentle into that good night,
    Old age should burn and rage at close of day;
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
    Because their words had forked no lightning they
    Do not go gentle into that good night.

    Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
    Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
    And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
    Do not go gentle into that good night.

    Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
    Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    And you, my father, there on the sad height,
    Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado noviembre 2011
    Menzies escribió : »
    I dedicate this beautiful poem to Miss Shaianti and, well, in general, to all those subscribed to this thread.
    By the great Dylan Thomas, on his father's deathbed:
    Do not go gentle into that good night,
    Old age should burn and rage at close of day;
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
    Because their words had forked no lightning they
    Do not go gentle into that good night.

    Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
    Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
    And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
    Do not go gentle into that good night.

    Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
    Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    And you, my father, there on the sad height,
    Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


    Sad and beautiful! Thanks, Menzies, my young friend!
  • MenziesMenzies San juan de la Cruz XVI
    editado noviembre 2011
    Shaianti escribió : »
    Sad and beautiful! Thanks, Menzies, my young friend!

    You're always most welcome, Shaianti. It is sad, it's true. But I respect how Thomas tells, almost commands his father not to accept death in peace and quietly, but enraged and fiercely. A true example, if you ask me- people should not simply accept death, but should try fighting it to the very end. Even if there were no use, when did mankind needed reason to fight for a cause? And what cause is more worth to fight to death than Life?
  • ShaiantiShaianti Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado noviembre 2011
    Menzies escribió : »
    You're always most welcome, Shaianti. It is sad, it's true. But I respect how Thomas tells, almost commands his father not to accept death in peace and quietly, but enraged and fiercely. A true example, if you ask me- people should not simply accept death, but should try fighting it to the very end. Even if there were no use, when did mankind needed reason to fight for a cause? And what cause is more worth to fight to death than Life?

    You're right, but there is a point at the final breath, when it's less painful to just let yourself go...(I can assure you, I've seen it).
  • MenziesMenzies San juan de la Cruz XVI
    editado noviembre 2011
    I've only seen two men passing away, my grandfather, to whom death came unexpected, even when he was more than 80, and to one of my best friends on his birthday, and he was driven over, so can't say any of them left in peace. I'm sure you're completely right, in fact most people say elderly people, especially,often reach a moment when they simply accept death. But I would like to think I will die fighting, and never surrender to death.
  • MichelAngeloMichelAngelo Gonzalo de Berceo s.XIII
    editado noviembre 2011
    But death is something you can't beat, Menzies. And sorry if that sounds insensitive to you, but... after all, death is the only thing we can always expect. And that's why you shouldn't expect to die old and to fight death to your last breath, but live your life trying to be as happy as you can be. And I don't mean common happiness, having a good job, a family, a lot of cool stuff and all that. No. I think everyone should find their own happiness, whether if it is travelling around the world with only your shoes and your backpack, or if it is learning something new in every single minute of your life... or everything together.

    Just as Tyler Durden said (I know it's a very used character), "You have to know... not fear... know... that someday you're gonna die"
  • unaiunai Fernando de Rojas s.XV
    editado noviembre 2011
    It is very good reflexion about Tyler Durden´s sentence.
    I like very much "Fight Club",the first I saw the movie It liked me so much that, then decided read the book.
    Usually the film is not as well as the book, it is not this case.

    I have seen this movie many times, it has a great message to think about our society, the capitalist system and how people become crazy cause these stupid materialistic society.

    Has somebody ever read any book by Chuck Palahniuk?
  • odmaldiodmaldi Fray Luis de León XVI
    editado enero 2012
    I've never read the book. I'm not sure how anyone else feels about this, but I get the sense that once you've seen a movie, the book in itself will suck, or won't live up to the expectations of the movie. Likewise, once one has read the book, it's like you're going to inexorably judge the movie as bad. I’m guessing it’s all subjective.
    unai escribió : »
    It is very good reflexion about Tyler Durden´s sentence.
    I like very much "Fight Club",the first I saw the movie It liked me so much that, then decided read the book.
    Usually the film is not as well as the book, it is not this case.

    I have seen this movie many times, it has a great message to think about our society, the capitalist system and how people become crazy cause these stupid materialistic society.

    Has somebody ever read any book by Chuck Palahniuk?
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